I talk a lot about these issues.
I talk about race and this question
of whether we deserve to kill.
And it's interesting, when I teach my
students about African American history, I tell them about slavery.
I tell them about terrorism,
the era that began at the end of
reconstruction that went on
to World War II. We don't really
know very much about it. But for
African Americans in this country, that was an era defined by terror.
In many communities, people had to
worry about being lynched. They had to
worry about being bombed. It was the
threat of terror that shaped their lives. And these older people come up to me
now and they say,
"Mr. Stevenson, you give talks, you make speeches, you tell people to stop saying
we're dealing with terrorism for the
first time in our nation's history after 9/11." They tell me to say, "No, tell
them that we grew up with that." And that era of terrorism, of course,
was followed by segregation
and decades of racial subordination
and apartheid.
And yet, we have in this country this
dynamic where we
really don't like to talk about our problems. We don't like to talk about our
history. And because
of that, we really haven't understood what it's meant to do the things
we've done historically. We're
constantly running into each other. We're constantly creating tensions
and conflicts. We have a
hard time talking about race, and I believe it's because we are
unwilling to commit ourselves to a process of truth and
reconciliation. In South
Africa, people understood that we
couldn't overcome apartheid without a
commitment to truth and reconciliation. In Rwanda, even after the genocide,
there was this commitment, but in this
country we haven't done that.
I was giving some lectures in Germany
about the death penalty. It was
fascinating because one
of the scholars stood up after the presentation and said, "Well you know it's
deeply troubling to hear what
you're talking about." He said,
"We don't have the death penalty in Germany. And of course, we can never have the
death penalty in Germany." And the room got very quiet,
and this woman said, "There's no way, with our
history, we could ever
engage in the
systematic killing of human beings. It would be unconscionable for us
to, in an intentional and deliberate
way, set about
executing people." And I thought
about that. What would it
feel like to be living
in a world where the
nation state of Germany was executing people, especially if they were
disproportionately Jewish? I couldn't
bear it. It would be
unconscionable.
And yet, in this country, in the states of the Old South,
we execute people -- where you're 11 times more likely to
get the death penalty if the victim
is white than if the victim is black, 22 times more likely to get it
if the defendant is black and the
victim is white -- in the very
states where there are buried in the ground the bodies of people who were
lynched. And yet,
there is this disconnect.